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Showing posts with label outcast. Show all posts
Showing posts with label outcast. Show all posts
Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Friday, February 10, 2012
You Should Just Be Quiet
Please read Matthew Paul Turner's Me, troublemaker? post.
Over the last few weeks, my husband and I, like Matthew, have gotten many comments implying that we should not be talking about our experience at Mars Hill. These commenters are knowingly or unknowingly employing the "Don't Talk" rule.
What is the "Don't Talk" rule?
David Johnson and Jeff VanVonderen describe it in The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse like this:
"The can't talk rule has this thinking behind it: 'The real problem cannot be exposed because then it would have to be dealt with and things would have to change; so it must be protected behind walls of silence (neglect) or by assault(legalistic attack). If you speak about the problem out loud, you are the problem. In some way you must be silenced or eliminated." pg. 68
The authors point out that the people who talk about the problems don't CAUSE them, they EXPOSE them. Johnson & VanVonderen
Over the last few weeks, my husband and I, like Matthew, have gotten many comments implying that we should not be talking about our experience at Mars Hill. These commenters are knowingly or unknowingly employing the "Don't Talk" rule.
What is the "Don't Talk" rule?
David Johnson and Jeff VanVonderen describe it in The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse like this:
"The can't talk rule has this thinking behind it: 'The real problem cannot be exposed because then it would have to be dealt with and things would have to change; so it must be protected behind walls of silence (neglect) or by assault(legalistic attack). If you speak about the problem out loud, you are the problem. In some way you must be silenced or eliminated." pg. 68
The authors point out that the people who talk about the problems don't CAUSE them, they EXPOSE them. Johnson & VanVonderen
In Healing Spiritual Abuse by Ken Blue says:
"One of the most troubling abusive traits in the dysfunctional church or denominational family is the unwritten "no talk" rule. This rule implies that certain problems in the group must not be exposed because then the group might look bad and things would have to change. The "no talk" rule itself is among those things never talked about. Healthy groups thrive on the free flow of information. Members have ready access to each other's opinions and concerns. Sick groups generally suffer from confused, defective or controlled communication."
Most often, for my husband and I, it comes in one of the following forms:
"One of the most troubling abusive traits in the dysfunctional church or denominational family is the unwritten "no talk" rule. This rule implies that certain problems in the group must not be exposed because then the group might look bad and things would have to change. The "no talk" rule itself is among those things never talked about. Healthy groups thrive on the free flow of information. Members have ready access to each other's opinions and concerns. Sick groups generally suffer from confused, defective or controlled communication."
Most often, for my husband and I, it comes in one of the following forms:
- What you are doing is not contributing to the cause of Christ (so you should just be quiet)
- What you are doing is not edifying (so you should just be quiet)
- What can you do about it? Pastor Mark is a big "celebrity" and Mars Hill is a huge influence on Christian culture. You are just one person. (So you might as well be quiet). For fun, read Judges 6:1-16
- I have had a wonderful experience at Mars Hill, you must have done something wrong. (So, please, just be quiet).
I have my moments when I feel like I should maybe, well, just be quiet. I mean, what about the people who did meet Jesus through Mars Hill? What about all the well meaning members who have nothing to do with all this?
And then I think of the people who have shared their stories, both publicly and privately. Some have lost faith in church, some have lost faith in people, some have lost faith in God. Some have lost family members, marriages, kids. Most have lost dignity.
There are people who are afraid of retaliation! Sometimes, I am one of them. This should not be happening in the church. The human part of us should be able to see past our associations and have empathy for those who have suffered, even if it was at the hands of someone we love or an organization we are part of!
I am with Matthew when he says:
"In my opinion, Mark is one of the most influential “Christian figures” affecting today’s “Christian culture”. His reach influences various aspects of Christian life: church growth, ministry, gender roles in the church, relationships, and more. Furthermore, Mark proactively seeks to influence and nurture young male pastors, church ministry workers, missionaries, etc. If Mark’s theologies, actions, and church management style only impacted Mars Hill, I probably wouldn’t care. Well, I would care and certainly make note of it, but I wouldn’t keep coming back to it. But Mark’s “gospel” bleeds into and affects how pastors of churches all over the country (and world) are managing their churches and ministries, from missions to church discipline. His words affect how pastors teach and manage and control a woman’s role in the church, home, work, etc. If you think I’m crazy, go read a month’s worth of comments on his Facebook wall. These pastors watch Mark. They sometimes idolize him. Sometimes they hang on his every word. And it’s all intentional. Mark doesn’t accidentally influence these pastors, it’s his passion and calling. From what I’ve heard and seen, Mark wants to influence how churches all over the world function. And that’s scary in my opinion."
When we started looking for a new church, after "the shun", we went to church after church (not Mars Hill or Acts 29). The first one was a bit far from us, and they asked us if we had heard of Acts 29 and that maybe we could find a church closer to home. Then the pastor announced they would be implementing The City soon.
The next one we went to seemed fine. We had been going for a few months. We missed a few services, and later found out that one of the services we missed was preached by...none other than Pastor Mark. A few weeks later they promoted his "Real Marriage" book as book of the week.
He is influencing all the Mars Hill campuses, 400+ Acts 29 churches, and countless other non affiliated pastors. It is concerning. It is harder to find a church, at least in our area, that is not a "fan" then it is to find one that is.
So, NO! I WILL NOT JUST BE QUIET! I am okay with being misunderstood. I am okay with being labeled the "problem". I am willing to lose a few friends. If telling our story and the stories of others helps one person, then it was worth it.
Monday, February 6, 2012
Which Came First...The Berean or The Outcast?
I think most of us who find ourselves here can identify with both the Berean and the Outcast. I was pondering the idea...do Bereans become Outcasts? Or do Outcasts become Bereans?
Be·re·an noun \bəˈrēən\
In the bible, the Bereans were the people who lived in the city of
Berea (present day northern Greece).
Easton's Bible Dictionary
describes Berea as:
“A city of Macedonia to which Paul with Silas and
Timotheus went when persecuted at Thessalonica (Acts 17:10,
13), and from which also he was compelled to withdraw, when he fled to the
sea-coast and thence sailed to Athens (14, 15). Sopater, one of Paul's
companions belonged to this city, and his conversion probably took place at
this time (Acts
20:4). It is now called Verria.”
In Acts 17:11-13
, Luke writes:
A nd the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul’s message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth. As a result, many Jews believed, as did many of the prominent Greek women and men. But when some Jews in Thessalonica learned that Paul was preaching the word of God in Berea, they went there and stirred up trouble. (NLT)
A Berean is simply a Christian that compares EVERYTHING
they are taught to the Bible as the final authority.
Characteristics of the Berean:
- She/he is eager for the Word of God (synonyms of eager: crazy, desirous, enthusiastic, excited, greedy, hungry, pumped, raring, thirsty, voracious)
- He/she searches the scriptures daily (Doesn’t rely only on others for learning)
- She/he uses discernment (He/she is not influenced by fame, prestige or influence of the preacher or leader, only the word, and judges things according to that standard)
- He/she believes the Word, and influences others to believe the truth (v. 12)
- She/he is willing to suffer for the faith (v. 13 and see below)
I recently read this old post, More Roles in a Toxic Faith System – Enabler, Victim, and Outcast, at
The Wartburg Watch about the role of “The
Outcast” in the book Toxic Faith
by Stephen Arteburn and Jack Felton.
Outcast noun \out-kast\
Dictionary.com defines outcast as:
- "a person who is rejected or cast out, as from home orsociety: In the beginning the area was settled by outcasts,adventurers, and felons.
- a homeless wanderer; vagabond.
- rejected matter; refuse."
The Outcast (quoted from TWW which quoted the book):
The people who stand up for what is right and challenge the system lose their jobs, friends, and church. They become lone voices in the wilderness, crying out for change that will not come as long as the persecutor dictates power, the co-conspirators manipulate the system, the enablers allow it to continue, and the victims fall in line with blind faith. When outcasts surface, they are identified as TROUBLEMAKERS and pushed out of the system as soon as possible." (p. 201)
Characteristics of the Outcast: (p. 203)
- Is not a religious addict
- Does not possess a toxic faith
- Willingly stands alone
- Stands up for what is right
- Is willing to be rejected by others in the toxic-faith system
- Can discern right from wrong
- Commits to leaders having integrity
- Refuses to be victimized by false teaching and lack of integrity
- Speaks out for truth
- Usually loses a job within a toxic organization over concern for it
- Suffers rejection by friends after challenging the leadership of those in the toxic-faith system
- Often is treated as a leper
- Is begged by others in the toxic-faith system to support the persecutor
- Endures shame for actions
- Refuses to respect or be manipulated by those in the toxic-faith system
- Sees the truth and acts on it even if it produces great personal pain
- Interprets reality for self
- Is motivated to protect people from spiritual fraud
- Is very dedicated to God and the people who seek a relationship with him
- Commands respect of others for courage
"In a toxic faith system, no one is allowed to disagree. If
they ever try to speak out, they are labeled as complainers, negative thinkers,
and not team players. "Loyalty is equated with blind faith and
complete agreement with the leader". (p. 202)
"Outcasts who challenge the delusion of the system are
discredited immediately. The toxic-faith system creates a lose-lose
situation where the outcasts must give up perceptions of reality or be willing
to face complete rejection. Abandonment becomes the reward for trying to
correct the ministry.
Outcasts can interpret reality for themselves. Even when
their perception of reality contradicts that of hundreds and thousands of
followers, they can clearly see the problems and press for solutions to those
problems. Outcasts are unimpressed by position or personhood. They
love God and want to protect his people and his institutions from spiritual
fraud.
Those who are so dedicated to God have little difficulty seeing
others' dedication to ego and empires. Yet they are forced to suffer for
what they see because they refuse to watch people live a lie and abuse
others. No toxic-faith system can handle this keen insight and dedication
to truth. They must place their jobs and the church they love on the
altar of sacrifice as they are forced to move on to a place free of toxic
faith." (p. 202)
I personally believe it can go either way. My husband was a Berean first, and because he refused to submit to teaching that was not in line with the Word, he became the Outcast. I think for me, it happened simultaneously! As I began to question, I began to search the scriptures (Berean-ish), and soon became the Outcast as well. I am forever grateful! It is one of the most valuable life lessons I have ever learned, and I am a different (perhaps better) person because of it.
The authors of Toxic Faith offer this hope for us Berean-Outcasts:
"God honors those who are willing to sacrifice their
comfort on the altar of what is right. God has a special place in his
heart for the heroes of a toxic-faith system. Those who stand up
for God and tell the world the emperor has no clothes will receive their reward
sooner or later." (p. 202)
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